Is this the worst Sabres team ever?
Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:15 PM
Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:00 PM
It's probably the most disappointing, aggravating season that I can recall. Thank God it's only half a season.
And the worst part is, there's no easy fix. It's not like last year where we had the delusion of injuries. This year, we've had very few injuries and they're actually worse than last year. The only bright spot is that Hodgson looks like he's a guy we can keep but I'm actually longing for the days of Marc Andre Grangnani.
It's tough when Ville Leino is suddenly becoming the most pleasant surprise on your team.
Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:32 AM
In a word....."Yes". I have watched every season played by this team and I mean every one, This is the worst, because on paper, this team has playoff caliber talent and shouldn't be flirting with the worst record in the league. Granted our 3rd and 4th lines are awful and our D are not a properly constituted group and haven't been since Tallinder left town.
That the said, the biggest problem is that this team is simply under-performing. They play well enough to get 2 goal leads and then simply fall apart. Their mental approach is the awful. They are also coached poorly. How many clearing passes through the middle which get intercepted until you learn not to do it anymore? They haven't stopped making that play all season and it costs us game after game.
Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:08 AM
They were very similar. Young and unproven centers. A mixed bag on D with vets and youth but 1986 had even worse goaltending, especially when you consider the goaltenders (a ROY in Barrasso, a solid pro in Cloutier and rookie Darren Puppa).
The biggest difference is that the solid core there was still developing. Andreychuk, Barrasso, Housley, Ruuttu, Cyr, Tucker, Reekie, Krupp and Cregihton; all these guys were in their first couple of NHL season and had been drafted in the 2-3 years prior to that season. It's those players who were the top players on the team, with the exception of Folgino and Mike Ramsey.
The current team has a couple of those guys. CoHo, Foligno, Ennis, & Myers, but the leaders on this team are holdovers Stafford, Pominville, Vanek, and Miller, with newcomer vets Regehr, Ehrhoff and Ott. All these guys should be better then they are and all should have been able to lead this team forward instead of the abyss.
1986 sucked, but at least we were enjoying watching the talented kids improve, no such luck today.
Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:24 PM
When you dig through the problems the glaring issue is the inability of the PP to score. The bright spot is no SH goal against tonight. 0 for 4 is unacceptable. This means to me we are deluding ourself that we have the talent. Talented teams have good PP. maybe it's the lack of a difference maker, a big play man. Someone to take a game and break it open. Vanek can be that guy but it seems to me he is often playing injured. Leadership is obviously another lacking merit of this team. In fact I am starting to think they don't like each other.
Florida and Tampa in the basement and in comes Buffalo to give them some points. Boston struggling and here comes the Sabres.
We are the laughing stock. Losing is bad enough but losing the way we lose is the real issue. The lack of emotion kills me. I get more emotional than the players do. My white flag us up, way up firm and high.
Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:37 PM
Is this the worst Sabres team ever?
I cannot answer that question until the season is over. I will say with the way the team is playing, starting games strong and failing to finish, it is one of the worst teams this organization has iced. Reasons can be targeted to players underachieving, a flawed playbook from a former coach and the inability to fill specific holes, some that have existed for years.
Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:27 PM
Only the team can fix itself. Players need to play better, coaches need to throw out Ruff's system and play far better hockey, and the front office needs to address depth and positional concerns with better players.
Gotta disagree here.
This is why we need to clea things out and bring in new players and talent --- and a new coach. One of my biggest WTF's of this season is why fire lindy now to bring in only an interim coach? The players NEED clear direction, and Rolston is not that answer - not because he isn't potentially a good coach, but because the GM doesn't even trust him to be his own coach - why throw lindy out but keep using his playbook (which seeing how we play, I do feel like Rolston is just trying to be Lindy and not trying to be his own entity - this may be because he knows and knew this was a temp job). It is clear to me now that we need bold moves for the future, not for right now.
Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:20 PM
Gotta disagree here.
This is why we need to clea things out and bring in new players and talent --- and a new coach. One of my biggest WTF's of this season is why fire lindy now to bring in only an interim coach?
Why an interim coach? Hopefully because Ted Black wanted to see what a different coach can do with the roster Ruff was given and see if the results were different. The results are not different. Maybe now the Sabres can move on to the real problem of this team and that is the decision making ability of Darcy Regier. He should go at years end and at that time a new GM should be hired. When that happens the new GM will hire a new coach and the GM will make some roster moves to start the new coach's and new GM's career here in Buffalo in a new direction. I am crossing my fingers.
Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:26 AM
I've been a Sabres fan since 1976. After watching them tonight I actually tried to remember a worse team that the Sabres have iced. I couldn't. How does a team lead a game for for 59 minutes and 20 seconds and lose? This team is the best at finding ways to lose and I don't think it matter who plays, who coaches or who owns the team. When TP bought this team and made those bold statements giving us all hope that we could finally taste success....never in a million years did I expect us to end up here. I can only laugh so I don't cry or break something.
Naw...I'd say the 1986-87 team was worse,
so was the team we had after Hasek left (01-02?)...
No more Slug
and maybe one day
a Stanley Cup !
Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:39 AM
I think there have been plenty of teams that have been "worse" but this one certainly is in the top three of most frustrating, agonizing to watch.
If a team is bad because they're bad, well what are you gonna do?
But if they have some talent and still play bad......ugh.
Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:13 AM
I guess the Sabres are in sell mode. Team is getting worse by the trade. We might just secure a top draft pick. Wow!
Did you know that the Sabres have only had the top pick twice (Perreault and Turgeon) and have never picked 2nd, 3rd or 4th. We have drafted 5th five times (Vanek, Shawn Anderson [Brian Leetch was taken 4 picks later -ooops], Barrasso, Schoenfeld and Martin).
So who next now that Adam is back. Is this just for Leino or Vanek's injuries or is something else brewing?
I'm pretty sure now that this is the worst Sabres team ever. The interesting think is that the rebuilding could be very quick. Lots of good prospects coming on board, and almost a clear Cap the season after next, with one of the signed players (Leino) likely a amnesty buyout.
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